{"id":7925,"date":"2025-09-17T17:57:33","date_gmt":"2025-09-17T17:57:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/huseyinthebrain.com\/cachengo\/?p=7925"},"modified":"2025-10-13T18:14:16","modified_gmt":"2025-10-13T18:14:16","slug":"the-next-cloud-shift-decentralization-saas-and-the-ai-race-with-ash-young-and-mike-mcdonough-ep-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/huseyinthebrain.com\/cachengo\/podcast\/the-next-cloud-shift-decentralization-saas-and-the-ai-race-with-ash-young-and-mike-mcdonough-ep-12\/","title":{"rendered":"The Next Cloud Shift: Decentralization, SaaS, and the AI Race with Ash Young &#038; Mike McDonough | Ep. 12"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"7925\" class=\"elementor elementor-7925\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-799b6ef elementor-section-full_width elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"799b6ef\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-2ab53d0\" data-id=\"2ab53d0\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-800ff96 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"800ff96\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In this continuation of our last episode, Ryo Koyama, Ash Young, and Mike McDonough dive deeper into the future of cloud, decentralization, and AI in the data economy. 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